Interview with Ryusei Saegusa

"I was reading about Edgar Cayce in order to understand what Mr. Haruchika Noguchi did."

Profile:Born in Tokyo in 1954. Ryusei Saegusa overcame his physical weakness through practicing Noguchi Seitai (Noguchi-style manipulative bodywork) and a macrobiotic diet in his boyhood. He joined the parachute team of the Self-Defense Forces, then he became an apprentice of Haruchika Noguchi. In 1984, he started to teach independently.After that, he went abroad and taught Seitai as he was grouping for the best method.
In 2009, he established "Tenshin-kai" which teaches a method combining Noguchi Seitai, Aikido, and divination. He recently wrote a book "Saigo-ni Nokoruno-wa Karada-dake (only the body remains at last)" (Kodansha)
Website: www.aikido.co.jp


Naoko Mitsuda: In your book you said that you found out about Noguchi Seitai because of the disease you had when you were in junior high school. Can you tell us about your disease myasthenia, and what was your condition like?

Ryusei Saegusa: I was 13 years old, so the first grade in junior high. Suddenly, I became unable to hold a pencil. When I tried to take note of what was on the blackboard, I couldn't hold a pencil. I could walk, but couldn't hold things. The teachers thought I was just being lazy. I visited several hospitals but they couldn't tell what it was, so it was hard.

I guess I have concealed my memories of that period so I've been trying to remember since you asked me, but it's chaotic and I hardly remember the details. But I remember it was hard.

I was happy when I finally found out the name of the disease at Keio Hospital but shocked when they told me that I won't recover.

Everyone gets upset when we are told that "You have a cancer" at age 60, but when a teenager gets told that "You can live for four years maximum", it is very shocking.

M: It must have been hard for your parents too.

S: They are very interesting people in that they accepted and gave up straight away. I couldn't give up, but they soon did.

M: I suppose you found Noguchi Seitai because of your condition. How did it happen?

S: Actually I found out about Noguchi Seitai before the symptoms of myasthenia appeared. There was an unforgettable math teacher called Mr. Nishi. I used to want to become a scientist, so I was really into maths. And one time in his class, Mr. Nishi talked about the automatic movement exercise of Noguchi Seitai, which is called Katsugen Undo (regenerating movement exercise). He also told us about his experiences: "When my kneecap broke, it couldn't be cured by normal medicine but I went to Mr. Noguchi and he cured it. When I got a cancer I went to him and I recovered."

No one else believed in the class. But I thought this could be true, there could be "an amazing man who could win several Nobel prizes", as Mr. Nishi described.

So after that class, I went to the teachers' office and asked Mr. Nishi if the story was true. And he told me more about Mr. Noguchi and he taught me how to induce Katsugen Undo roughly.

M: So you found about it before you became sick. That was very meaningful when you think of how this information helped you. It seems that you were guided by something great...

S: Yes, that's right. But it was really sad when I became sick. When I was 13, I looked up in the night sky and thought to myself that "I have four more years to live. I'll be 17…". My parents could give up, but I couldn't.

M: But then you knew about Mr. Noguchi who could cure even cancer patients, and that's why you could have hope. It is amazing how things happened at the right timing.

S: That's true that if I didn't have that information the result might have been different. I could believe such unusual phenomena because I always thought that there must be mountain hermits, and there are things that are unimaginable existing in this world since I was little.

M: So were you interested in the invisible world since you were a child?

S: I totally was. I used to foretell earthquakes when I was in junior high school… You know a child who often gets sick has sensitivity. When I was a child, I was very thin and weak. I loved to draw. And my parents argued a lot so I used to wonder why I was born…

M: You mentioned in your book that since you started to practice Noguchi Seitai in your junior high school period, you became "a student who was only interested in people's backs". What were you looking for in backs?

S: Children often think that "We can't trust grown-ups". Often grown-ups pretend to like someone when they're in their presence, but say "I hate that person" when they're not around. So I was wondering what I could believe.

Then one day, Mr. Noguchi talked about our spines. He explained that people who have a misaligned lumber 3rd, which is located right behind our belly buttons tend to have twisted posture and that they can't pee straight. It curves to either side. After hearing this, I was standing in front of the public toilet by Mitaka station all day, with a packed lunch.

When you see a person with a twisted lumber 3rd, you can tell straight away by the way they walk, and the way they shake their shoulders. When I'd see such a person, I'd follow him into the toilet and watch the direction of his pee. In those days there weren't any side screened urinals, so I stood beside them pretending to pee. Like "There, it goes to the right". I realized that whatever people hide can be told by looking at their backs as I watched the direction of pee.

M: Would we be able to analyze others by looking at their backs, not only in toilets but in our ordinary lives to a certain extent?

S: We know, even without looking at our backs. I wrote about this in my book. We can tell if a person wants us to stay or wants us to leave soon by the way they serve a cup of tea. We're only hiding it from each other. With our words we hide our emotions. So I think "American Indians never lie, our back never lies, either", and I've been interested in our backs. It means that our backs tell us more about ourselves.

M: You've mentioned that the singer Taeko Onuki was your class mate in junior high school and you asked to touch her back.

S: Of course it was over the clothes. Public baths were the place to see men's backs. We had a custom of washing each other's backs so I watched as I washed. I was already thinking of making living out of doing Seitai.

M: But you joined the Self-Defense Forces after the high school, didn't you?

S: Well, it happened like this. When I finished high school and I was 18 years old, I became an apprentice of Ms. Hiroko Yamane who was a teacher of Noguchi Seitai. It was too intimidating to me to be a direct apprentice of Mr. Haruchika Noguchi because he was married to the daughter of Fumimaro Konoe (ex. Prime Minister) who was a close relative of the royal family. Also it was difficult financially to become an apprentice of his, so I asked to to be introduced to one of his apprentices, who were excellent. Then I was introduced Ms. Yamane, with whom I studied.

At that time I still had the symptoms of myasthenia, coming and going repeatedly. So I negotiated with Ms. Yamane to become an apprentice if she could treat me completely and as a result, I became an apprentice.

But when I overcome the sickness, it was boring. People who visited there were all sick people and I was still young then… So I asked Ms. Yamane to allow me to go out for a year and I joined the paratroopers which was said to be the hardest of the Self-Defense Forces. It was arranged for a year but I stayed for a year and three months and went back to Ms. Yamane.

However, two days before my return, Ms. Yamane became unconscious after having a subarachnoid hemorrhage. She became conscious after I went back but she was paralyzed on one side so I nursed her more than I studied from her.

Still, there was a huge amount of old materials of Mr. Noguchi's work so I could study the procedure of what he went through in order to reach his final method.

M: Have you ever been taught by Mr. Noguchi directly?

S: I have at seminars and monthly events… But Mr. Noguchi's Seitai technique is so skillful that all the apprentices get disappointed. It is impossible to imitate his moves since he does them so divinely.

M: So do you say that patients were cured by something other than his technique?

S: It was something other than technique. If I exaggerated, it was like the patients were working for Mr. Noguchi.

M: Was it like they were cured just by Mr. Noguchi's presence?

S: Yes, it was.

M: How old was Mr. Noguchi when he passed away?

S: He was 65 years old. Once I wrote on my blog about the cause of his death and critical comments poured in to the page. He died by subarachnoid hemorrhage. People who use finger tips to press hard receive a pressure at the back of their neck. I had similar experiences twice and they were deadly. So Seitai practitioners should protect ourselves by taking calcium and such. Noguchi Seitai uses the thumb to press with strength.

M: In places I'm mixing up the Noguchi Seitai (Noguchi-style manipulative body work) and Noguchi Taiso (Noguchi-style exercise). Could you tell us the difference between them?

S: There was an article in the Asahi newspaper called "Two Mr. Noguchies", stating that they were both very important. They are not related by marriage but they have the same surname and they worked at the same period by chance.

Mr. Haruchika Noguchi who created Noguchi Seitai, was one of the greatest physical thinkers of Japan. He established a unique Seitai method by combining eastern medicine of all ages with his own Seitai (body-conditioning) for conditioning the flow of energy, in order to awaken human's self-healing power. It is different from ordinary physical therapy such as "Seitai" or "manipulations".

The person who created Noguchi Taiso is called Mr. Michizo Noguchi. He taught physical exercise at Tokyo University of the Arts for a long time and he created "Noguchi Taiso" as a result of his research on physical performance. Apparently Mr. Ryuichi Sakamoto (musician) was taught Noguchi Taiso when he studied at the university. It is difficult to verbalize what Mr. Haruchika Noguchi did, but Noguchi Taiso can be explained to a certain extent and I think that is it's characteristic. I actually used to live near Mr. Michizo Noguchi so I had the honor of studying with him as well.

M: (whilst looking at materials written by Michizo Noguchi) These are very important reference materials.

S: In my life, things are happening the way I wanted them to when I was in junior high school.I have read Karl Marx, Kenji Miyazawa. But among all the books I've read, Mr. Haruchika Noguchi's philosophy was the most moving.

M: Were you asked to do Seitai by your friends when you were in high school?

S: I have been doing it since junior high school. I gave treatments to teachers as well.

M: Then your career as a Seitai practitioner must be for about 45 years.

S: In fact, I don't intend to cure the clients. I say this to my apprentices, that the intention of curing does not cure people. Just like when a person gets pushed they resist, if we try to cure they resist. There's always a cause of illnesses. It's possible for a client to be cured but they could die. Even when an operation is successfully done, the patient can still die.

I'd like to tell you about how I got into Edgar Cayce. When Mr. Haruchika Noguchi passed, I was not sure how to grope for the treatment. Mr. Noguchi also had a psychic ability. Had he not, it wouldn't have been possible to give such treatments. So I was reading about Edgar Cayce in order to understand what Mr. Noguchi did.

When we think of an old lady with a round back, when she dies her back stretches to her actual hight by itself without being pulled by others. If the back can stretch when one dies, it should be able to stretch while one's alive. But it's not so.

Humans die and become peaceful so we say "rest in peace". But when we're alive we cling onto our thoughts including delusions. I think that having a life with a body which is not trapped in any way is an object of practicing Noguchi Seitai.

In addition, "observations" come before "treatments". It can be said that when the observation is successful, the treatment will be successful. These days, people are trying to decompose and analyze genes and DNAs to know the nature of ourselves, but I think it is important to observe humans as a whole. Mr. Haruchika Noguchi was a wonderful observer.

M: You have mentioned about Edgar Cayce, can you tell us about how and when you found out about Cayce?

S: I was reading books about Cayce since I was in Junior high school. His face is like a holy man and when we read his biography, he is a man of pure honesty. I admire him and at the same time, I think it is so great that the U. S. accepted his ability and allowed his foundation to be established.

M: I suppose there weren't many books about Cayce published when you were a junior high school student, were there?

S: I suppose not. But even then, Cayce was mentioned a lot in the conversations between people who were practicing Noguchi Seitai. I still haven't read that many books about Mr. Cayce, but I admired him.

M: It's great to hear that people who were practicing Noguchi Seitai read books about Cayce. By the way, do you apply any of Cayce's remedies?


S: One thing I'm sad about in eastern medicine is that we don't have any means of communication between different methods. Everyone seems to be so proud of their own methods and I don't think there are many people who try to connect to other practitioners or study other methods. For western medicine, they have meetings and exchange each others opinions and informations and study together. I do boxing, karate, judo and aikido, all of them. In all the martial arts I studied, I became a rank title holder. It's great to practice one method, but you can learn many things from practicing others. This is my theory.

I think that treatment methods are the same. One way of treatment and diet can only suit a particular person, so we need to seek and learn many other ways. Mr. Cayce, Mr. Haruchika Noguchi and Mr. Michizo Noguchi are doing different methods but they are all connected underneath as long as they work for humans. I've been thinking that learning other methods help me to understand my method deeper.

Also the method becomes more practical when you find it by your own trial and error rather than being taught to practice when you were told to press certain vertebrae in certain cases.

Let's go back to your question. What I learned from books about Cayce was the meditation. I still meditate every time before I give treatments.

That is because during the Seitai session, sometimes I say crazy things to the client out of the blue. But often these crazy things I say have an important meaning.

Mr. Haruchika Noguchi also said to a client during a session that "It's bad to not give money back to your grand mother. You should pay back what you owe". "You may not be able to see, but your grand mother is standing there". One time he asked another client that "Is your son in America feeling sick? Do you have a picture of him?" When the client passed him a picture, he rubbed over it and said "Call him and see how he's feeling". The client called and found out that their son was recovered…

M: Really? That's more or less a miracle. If that's what Mr. Noguchi was doing, Noguchi Seitai cannot be practiced with manuals or techniques.

S: I feel that Mr. Noguchi didn't need any of that but he left the "form of inducing" to dull apprentices. He was touching clients as a commemoration. As I mentioned earlier that, I am envious of America for being able to research such mysterious parts of Cayce's readings with an intelligence to establish a foundation.

M: It's been 70 yeas since his death and there is still new research on readings going on.

S: That is more interesting to me.

M: Now, in your book "Saigo-ni Nokoruno-wa Karada-dake (only the body remains at last)" you talk about "Curtain and Panty method". This was very interesting to me, can you explain about this?

S: I'll give you an example. One day, I had a client who was a lady in her 30s claiming she had a collagen disease. So I said to her "I assume that you don't have a driving license, do you? If you get it, you'll recover". Of course nobody would believe such a thing. Then I continued "But you have to get it without telling your husband. When you go to driving school, you must try hard to keep it secret from him". Later, she successfully passed the test and got the license. I then told her to go to the hospital for a check-up. She reported that the disease was gone. The point here is to do things without telling one's husband. I've used this kind of method a lot and it always worked.

The Curtain and Panty method is like this. Wearing sexy underwear like g-strings which makes you feel "too sexy", and going for hair-styling to a young male hair-stylist who's your type. You have to hide the sexy underwear from your husband when you go home. That's all you have to do. It's all about waring a little sexy underwear and go to get a hair cut. But only doing this can change your body.

(He continued to explain how this method works and how this makes people healthier, but apparently it will not work if the person knows the mechanism of it, so we keep it secret…)

M: Then what about the curtains?

S: Curtains have various qualities and high end can be very expensive. For example, if someone makes a large amount of money, they can indulge themselves by waring expensive cloths. But it's so obvious to neighbors that they're rich. So instead, they buy some high quality curtains and hang them in the room where they can't be seen from the outside. This changes their consciousness by knowing that something expensive is in the house, but nobody can see it.

M: So the key of this method is for curtains to be very high quality and expensive, and panties to be sexy and expensive.

S: When I was in high school, I was interested in women's physiology. So I asked my friend who was the son of an obstetrician, to take me to the room and let me go up on the childbirth table. I took off my pants, laid on the bed and put my legs on the leg rests, while a curtain covered my belly… I thought to myself "Do women really take this position?"

M: It is shocking, isn't it?


S: Yes, it is. And women wear sanitary napkins. I wondered what that's like. I don't have periods and there's no groove in front of my crotch but there is around the anus, so I wondered what would happen if I placed a sanitary napkin there. I spent a whole day waring a napkin at back of my crotch.

I was a high school student, so I was so embarrassed. I went to a barber because I wanted my hair style to be neat at least, but I was wearing a napkin on my anus. I was so afraid of having a traffic accident. If anyone took my trousers off, they'll find out that I was wearing a napkin. I didn't want anyone to think that I was a pervert. I was in a panic. Thus, it takes more energy to change something which can not be seen than that which can.

M: Did you discover the "Curtain and Panty method" from that experience in your high school period?

S: Yes. It was the Napkin affair.

M: (Laugh out loud) That's amazing that you've done such thing in your susceptible high school period…

S: I wore a disposable diaper to know how babies feel. In those days, there were no diapers for adults, so I cut baby size diapers and made a bigger one and tried it on.

M: That's quite an extreme for a high schooler to do… It's understandable for a grown-up to do it as a part of a profession, but you were just a high school student…

S: I think it was the era. By the way, when I was in high school I got sent references from the United Nations and wrote a report called "The Outlook on the End of the World". I included the CO2 issue, nuclear problem, over-population, and gene manipulation. I expressed that the world will be perilous around 2000. It was the era of the student movement, like the Yasuda Kodo incident. So most of the students were politically aware. We had to study for exams then but I hardly did because I thought it was more important to have research on the future of the earth. To the contrary, the public were on a spree of Expo.

M: You must be farsighted to have a sense of the crisis of earth's future and to have studied the earth's environment and gene manipulation over 40 years ago. On the other hand, you were experiencing wearing napkins and diapers. You were not an ordinary high school student.

I'd like to move on to another subject. In the previous book you introduced a story of the person who became less fortunate when they stopped going to the usual barber and went to more expensive barber. I couldn't understand why they became misfortunate for changing from cheap barber to expensive barber. Can you explain why?


S: It means that the high priced or high quality barbers will not raise your luck. What matters is the chemistry. If the chemistry is right, even a cheap barber can give you luck. Same thing can be said about marriage. It is better to marry someone with chemistry than having a lot of money when you consider you have to spend time alone in later years… The influence of relationships is like multiplication and it's not addition nor subtraction. If you make one mistake, it becomes more and more complicated.

Whether it's a hair salon or a barber, where you "cut your hair" is very important. When the hair-stylists move to a new salon, women often follow them. If they move to Nagoya, they'd even go there from Tokyo… Having our hair touched means a lot to us.

M: Actually, I think I heard that a psychic person had their long hair shortened and their power became less.

S: When you have short hair, you make decisions quicker. That's why soldiers have their hair short. On the battle field, there's no time to consider "whether to shoot or not". On the other hand, at the English court, they wear long haired wigs. It's representative of their careful consideration.

Our hair has a purpose like the antenna. However, tips of hair store negative energy so I recommend women to trim frequently.

M: Are there any other place where the chemistry is important?


S: Places where your body is being touched. Seitai is included. But the influence of hair remains longer because it's visible. The word "hair (kami in Japanese)" is the same as "God (kami in Japanese)" for a reason.

M: What about Sun-plaza Nakano-kun (musician) who shaves his head?


S: He shaves his head but wears sunglasses. He's pressuring himself by wearing sunglasses. The rock musicians including Eikichi Yazawa and Ryudo Uzaki, they're often extremely shy. Having such personalities, they have to force themselves to be in the public as rock musicians. So they all need a script of how to pressure themselves, cloths and hair styles or sunglasses as props.

M: Women also wear make-up to create faces for the public.
By the way, the concept of "External Meridian*" in your book was very interesting. Can you tell us how you discovered this concept?

*External Meridian: Saegusa Seitai recognizes that humans have individual energy networks outside of our physical bodies (i.e. clothing, diet, living environment, family and friends, pets, including time of past and future).

S: By writing my diary for 3 years. I started to write a diary when I was 28 years old and 3 years later I read the whole thing. I could see the law of patterns. Like certain things happen at a certain time of the year or after meeting certain people, certain things happened. I have been writing for 30 years so I have statistics to a certain extent.

Humans repeat similar things daily. We may not have done what we've been meaning to do for 10 years. We tend to do unimportant things but not the important things which nobody orders us to do. This becomes clear when you write a diary.

M: How does this relate to the External Meridian?

S: You can see certain patterns. Like when you wear these clothes, weird things happen. External Meridian influences our Internal Meridian. Which means we are connected to the external world. Humans and time and space.

M: For men, it's common to go to a bar after work, like going to Shinbashi with colleagues…

S: But if they didn't go to those places to dust off what they didn't enjoy during the day, everything will go wrong. They're acting at work, acting at home so they tend to be most neutral at bars. Some English person was writing that there aren't many psychoanalysts in Japan, but mistresses of the bars are taking their places. Izakaya bars are our precious culture. I don't think in other countries, mistresses wouldn't say "Enough drinking, you should go home" to a customer. We have less of such mistresses lately...

M: I'd like to ask about Aikido next.

S: Aikido is very interesting. You know, only humans can operate things from one-sided positions, like cars with handles on left or right. Animals can't operate things unless the handle is in the middle, like those miniature trains monkeys ride. It is remarkable to be able to drive from the car's center, instead of your center.

It's like this (demonstration: he asks to hold his arm and try to keep standing firmly).

When I try to move you from my center, you don't move.
But when I move from the "center" point between us like a dance, you can't resist.
(Here, he easily moves even though I am resisting)
When one moves like dancing with the opponent, it relaxes their guard like breaking their security codes.

M: Does this mean placing my consciousness in the middle?

S: It means you take part in the movement with the opponent. It's not that you try to move the opponent from your center. Next, you can try to move from the opponent's center instead of your center. Then it becomes even more easier to move the opponent. It's almost as choreographed, but it's natural and the opponent can't help it.

Aikido makes the opponent settled. When the opponent stops to judge, they settle. Humans settle when we can't understand. It is just like ourselves in Japan now, that we're settled because we can't understand. We're holding our judgements. It's easy to resist when the enemies move the same way as before, but when they move from our center and we don't feel hostility towards them, we don't know what to do and we do as they like.

Self-centered people can't do Aikido. Even if they say "This is for the opponent", they try to move from their center so the opponents don't move. I mentioned earlier about Seitai that "I cure them" nor "I cure myself". Aikido does not "push down" the opponent, it only leads the opponent to "fall by themselves".

M: Is there an age limit to start practicing Aikido?

S: Not at all. I'd like to invite people to practice even if it was 2 days before their death. Do you know what we mainly use our motor nerves for? It's for standing. Aikido begins with standing straight. Same as ballet.

When we talk about standing, Edgar Cayce has a beautiful posture. When I look at various pictures of him, the center line runs through him like heaven and earth. I suppose it's impossible to receive intuitions otherwise. It's inspiring to see his pictures. Mr. Cayce has the heaven and earth connection. In other words, people are "how they look". Exactly the same as we see them.

M: You can tell without seeing the entire body.

S: Yes, I can. I like to watch bicycle races and horse races. I used to go to bicycle racetracks without knowing the rules. When I get there, I just look at the backs of tipsters. If someone seems good, I'd buy betting tickets on his tips. After that, without looking at the races I'd leave to a cafe and read books. When all the races finish, I go back to cash the tickets.

M: How about stocks?

S: During the bubble economy, some people entrusted me with some money to invest in stocks, so I made it double and gave it back. Then I sold all the stocks in 1989. From the beginning of the following year, the economic bubble started to burst.

Mr. Noguchi had a period of making a living from investing in stocks. I assume everyone feels when is the right time. Humans have senses so we know whether to go to the right or to the left. But we use our head and think what to do. What we think in our heads is just data from the past. Forecasting of stocks works the same way as the External Meridian. Stocks are very interesting.

M: Next time please tell me the best stock I can be a rich person by your external Meridian.... By the way what do you think humans are?

S: I see the External Meridian between human relationships. "Humans (in Japanese kanji characters)" are spelled "in between peoples". It means also the relationships between people and nature. These relationships determine the life's turning point of its worst to its best. They're determined by whom you chose to relate to, and how you treat the relationships. The same things can be said about the connections. Some people take good care of connections which are hardly existing, and some people take apart without doing anything even when there were strong connections.

Our bodies are full of potentials. We can stand up, walk, crawl, we can even crawl inside out. There's no other animal that can do such things. We have so much potential that if we chose to mistakingly, we could create some awful results. In order to find the right choices, we should to listen to our bodies. And meditation is the way to listen to ourselves.

M: If you could recommend one tip to stay healthy, what would you recommend?

S: I can say that "Be careful of a chill". Get rid of chill from your body by wearing socks (toes separated) and having foot baths or sitz baths. One more thing is the relationships. The wrong human relationship can be a cancer-causing agent. It's a cancer-causing relationship.

M: Besides meditation, do you practice anything to raise your spirituality?


S: If I were to say it simply, I don't do anything I don't want to do. When I need to do something, I don't do it for an obligation. I make myself "want to do it", then do it. When I see efforts in my apprentices' work, I get angry at them. I can't bare the smell of efforts. I don't have the idea that when one works hard, they can be tolerated. Moreover, if the person was making an effort to be seen, they are sinners. In my company, we have the "prohibition against efforts". Mr. Shigeo Nagashima (ex. baseball player) made an effort where nobody saw. We humans should be light and fun.

M: Lastly, how do you wish to live from now on?

S: I've searched for "invisible things" such as energy until now. From now on, I think the invisible things will become more important than visible things. About the radiation issue, most of the people are "not moving until I hear the result because it's invisible".

For example, if you found out that you only had 2 months to live, you'd think "I'd like to see all the people I want to see while I can". We have to wonder which is better to see all the people in the last 2 months, or do nothing until your death. It's been over a year since the nuclear disaster in Fukushima. We gave ourselves some time to figure out. If I express myself in Cayce's way, I'd like to use this opportunity to raise my spirituality.

On March 11th, I was helping my friends and acquaintances to go home between my jobs, and I was moving around for 3 days without sleeping. I went to Fukushima immediately, and I drove there every week for a while. I get motivated by missions. I've been living for 58 years and I feel like the time has finally come to serve my purpose. Fortunately I have connections with some politicians so I'm working on them, and disclosing whatever information I know to people around me. I'd like to do my best to help as many people as possible to survive.

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